I enjoy these AI photos for being able to visually describe a scene (until we've got the real life photos to do so), but does the woman on the far right have 3 legs??
I read recently that Deut. 22:5 has been mistranslated. It's literal translation comes out something like a soldier should not dress like a woman to pass through the city gates. I can't remember where I saw this so I can't share a link.
One of my wife's friends, who does a lot more scholarly research than I, also spoke of the proper contexts of that passage. Supposedly, it has something to do with pagan countries and idol worship surrounding Israel. I don't think an alternative analysis is going to change anybody's mind. Taken at face value this is an ancient historical issue. That being said, then it becomes a tenant of faith that is being forced upon people of other faiths or non-believers. It would be the same with same-sex marriages?
I think sometimes the bible is interpreted literally, to sometimes abusive results when used to justify control. Looked at metaphorically there are a lot of good lessons and part of what makes it timeless.
I think that passage sort of speaks to the longstanding tradition in war of soldiers staying in uniform, as you will otherwise be treated dishonourably or as a spy. A tradition still upheld today. Or, more universally, don’t be deceitful to get what you want!
That said, it is wild how things change over time. Ancient soldiers from, Egypt, Greece, Rome, and Hebrew warriors, all largely wore some sort of skirt, and a gladiator type sandal. So much of men’s wear has been adopted by women, does that automatically exclude it from male wardrobes? Funny how a woman’s outfit on a summer outing imitates the elite soldiers of yesteryear, and it is considered feminine and fashionable.
Maybe Leonidas had a feminine side that has been lost to history??????
In many places, trousers only came in with the arrival of horse riding. Before that people wore loin clothes, skirts or shift dresses. Of course , in very cold regions both sexs were probably wearing trousers and tops long before civilization. Penny from Edinburgh.
During WWII it was, "All hands on deck" throughout the British Empire. No matter if you were gay, trans, CD or whatever. John Hunter just happened to be a gorgeous man who served the King. I recall seeing a photo of a Kiwi soldier manning an anti-aircraft gun wearing a helmet and otherwise in full drag! Whatever it took to win the war.
Some people, especially gays, were once again hounded after the war. Drag queens had an interesting "out". They could put together a "Soldiers in Skirts" drag troupe and avoid that hounding. That doesn't mean they weren't kept under some level of surveilance for being gay, but as long as they weren't caught, everything was good. Hypocracy at its' best! John Hunter was a member of a KIWI drag troupe after the war.
New Zealand John Hunter, not a civilian! Paula G
ReplyDeleteAh. The biblical loophole. Deut 22:5 says a man shall not wear a woman's clothing. But if the dresses are *his* that should be OK.
ReplyDeleteRight on Meg! I never wear a woman's clothing. It is all my own!
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not a civilian, probably enlisted in the forces. Chris1
ReplyDeleteI enjoy these AI photos for being able to visually describe a scene (until we've got the real life photos to do so), but does the woman on the far right have 3 legs??
ReplyDeleteI read recently that Deut. 22:5 has been mistranslated. It's literal translation comes out something like a soldier should not dress like a woman to pass through the city gates. I can't remember where I saw this so I can't share a link.
ReplyDeleteOne of my wife's friends, who does a lot more scholarly research than I, also spoke of the proper contexts of that passage. Supposedly, it has something to do with pagan countries and idol worship surrounding Israel. I don't think an alternative analysis is going to change anybody's mind. Taken at face value this is an ancient historical issue. That being said, then it becomes a tenant of faith that is being forced upon people of other faiths or non-believers. It would be the same with same-sex marriages?
DeleteI think sometimes the bible is interpreted literally, to sometimes abusive results when used to justify control. Looked at metaphorically there are a lot of good lessons and part of what makes it timeless.
DeleteI think that passage sort of speaks to the longstanding tradition in war of soldiers staying in uniform, as you will otherwise be treated dishonourably or as a spy. A tradition still upheld today. Or, more universally, don’t be deceitful to get what you want!
That said, it is wild how things change over time. Ancient soldiers from, Egypt, Greece, Rome, and Hebrew warriors, all largely wore some sort of skirt, and a gladiator type sandal. So much of men’s wear has been adopted by women, does that automatically exclude it from male wardrobes? Funny how a woman’s outfit on a summer outing imitates the elite soldiers of yesteryear, and it is considered feminine and fashionable.
Maybe Leonidas had a feminine side that has been lost to history??????
Norah
In many places, trousers only came in with the arrival of horse riding. Before that people wore loin clothes, skirts or shift dresses. Of course , in very cold regions both sexs were probably wearing trousers and tops long before civilization.
DeletePenny from Edinburgh.
During WWII it was, "All hands on deck" throughout the British Empire. No matter if you were gay, trans, CD or whatever. John Hunter just happened to be a gorgeous man who served the King. I recall seeing a photo of a Kiwi soldier manning an anti-aircraft gun wearing a helmet and otherwise in full drag! Whatever it took to win the war.
ReplyDeleteSome people, especially gays, were once again hounded after the war. Drag queens had an interesting "out". They could put together a "Soldiers in Skirts" drag troupe and avoid that hounding. That doesn't mean they weren't kept under some level of surveilance for being gay, but as long as they weren't caught, everything was good. Hypocracy at its' best! John Hunter was a member of a KIWI drag troupe after the war.
Mikki